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BAE Systems makes £30.7bn of sales almost entirely from governments, 70% from the US and UK, with an £84.0bn backlog, and the price sits above my base value but below my bull.
Updated Figures in pounds sterling; price in pounds (pence divided by 100)43 min readPedrum Shokouhi
Strong moat
Research, not investment advice. Figures as of .
Key numbers
- Sales£30.7bn (reported)2025, up 10% at constant currency; £15.8bn in the first half of 2026 [4][5]
- Underlying EBIT£3.32bn (reported)2025, a 10.8% return on sales; 2026 guidance is growth of 10% to 12% [4][5]
- Free cash flow£2.16bn (reported)2025, after capital spending, interest and tax; £1.79bn in the first half of 2026 [4][5]
- Owner cash£1.90bn (calculated)2025, after share-scheme cost and minority dividends; £1.58bn a year before working capital over 2021 to 2025 [4]
- Order backlog£84.0bn (reported)30 June 2026, including the share of joint ventures; IFRS order book £62.7bn [5]
- Net debt to EBITDA0.9 times (reported)Company measure, end 2025; net debt £3.17bn at 30 June 2026 [4][5]
(reported)Reported in a filing (calculated)Calculated from reported figures (estimate)My estimate
The answer
- BAE Systems is a British defence company and almost every pound of its sales comes from governments: in 2025 it made £30.7bn of sales, £3.3bn of underlying profit and £2.2bn of free cash flow, with 43% of sales to the United States and 27% to the United Kingdom, and it had an order backlog of £84.0bn at 30 June 2026 (reported).45
- I value it at £16.69 a share, in a range of £8.35 to £23.98; the range is wide because defence budgets are political, the cash flow of the last two years has customer advances in it that will go back out, and the shipbuilding contracts are first of their kind and carry a margin of only 6% to 7% (estimate).54
- At £20.75 the price is 24% above my base and 13% below my bull, my base cash flows equal the price only at a discount rate of 7.4% against the 8.5% I require, and my margin-of-safety price is £11.68 (estimate).12
Six questions, one line each
- Why
- It builds the Typhoon fighter’s major units, F-35 rear fuselages, Dreadnought and Astute submarines, Type 26 frigates, combat vehicles, missile electronics and military satellites, for governments that have just agreed to spend more.56 →
- The moat
- A backlog of £84.0bn is 2.7 years of sales, and what it protects is volume, because return on sales has stayed between 9.8% and 10.8% for ten years, the same as Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and General Dynamics (calculated).54789 →
- The advantage
- Footprint: it is a local supplier in the UK, the US, Sweden, Australia and Saudi Arabia at once, and its Electronic Systems sector earns 15.4% on sales against 6.7% in Maritime.4 →
- Management
- Charles Woodburn has been Chief Executive since 1 July 2017, dividends have risen every year of the ten, £2.8bn of shares were bought in 2021 to 2025 and £4.8bn went on Ball Aerospace in 2024; I could not open the pay report, so I cannot say what pay rewards.10411 →
The business
BAE Systems designs, builds and supports military equipment and the systems inside it, for governments. In 2025 it had sales of £30.7bn, 8% more than in 2024 on a reported basis and 10% more at constant currency, with underlying earnings before interest and tax of £3,322m, a return on sales of 10.8%, and 111,400 people in more than 40 countries; by 30 June 2026 the workforce was 112,400.45 The head office is in London, but the largest customer is the United States: 43% of 2025 sales went to customers there, 27% to the United Kingdom, 12% to Europe outside the UK, 9% to Saudi Arabia and 4% to Australia.4 I use the company’s own “sales”, which add the group’s share of joint ventures such as MBDA to the IFRS revenue of £28.3bn.4
What the five sectors do
The reporting sectors as the company describes them. Sales and backlog are for 2025; backlog at 30 June 2026 in the last column.
| Sector | What is in it | 2025 sales and return on sales | Backlog, Dec 2025 and Jun 2026 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Air | Typhoon major units and support, F-35 rear fuselages, the future combat aircraft (GCAP), Saudi support, and stakes in MBDA and Eurofighter | £9.3bn, 11.9%4 | £32.6bn; £34.3bn45 |
| Electronic Systems | Electronic warfare, sensors, avionics, precision munitions such as APKWS, and the space business (SMS) that came with Ball Aerospace | £7.5bn, 15.4%4 | £13.6bn; £14.4bn45 |
| Maritime | Astute, Dreadnought and SSN-AUKUS submarines, Type 26 and Hunter frigates, Australian and UK ship support, Boxer and Challenger 3 through RBSL | £6.8bn, 6.7%4 | £21.3bn; £19.7bn45 |
| Platforms & Services | Combat vehicles (AMPV, Bradley, CV90, BvS10), artillery (M109, ARCHER), naval guns, US ship repair and two government ammunition plants | £5.0bn, 11.4%4 | £15.0bn; £14.2bn45 |
| Cyber & Intelligence | US intelligence and security services and UK-based Digital Intelligence | £2.4bn, 9.3%4 | £2.1bn; £2.3bn45 |
Sales and profit by sector, 2025
£ billions, 2025
- Sales £30.7bn in total, less £0.6bn between sectors
- Underlying EBIT Return on sales: Electronic Systems 15.4%, Air 11.9%, Platforms & Services 11.4%, Cyber & Intelligence 9.3%, Maritime 6.7%
Show the numbers
| Electronic Systems | Platforms & Services | Air | Maritime | Cyber & Intelligence | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sales (reported) | £7,528m | £5,039m | £9,299m | £6,797m | £2,397m |
| Underlying EBIT (reported) | £1,162m | £576m | £1,108m | £457m | £223m |
| Return on sales (calculated) | 15.4% | 11.4% | 11.9% | 6.7% | 9.3% |
| Order backlog, £bn (reported) | 13.6 | 15.0 | 32.6 | 21.3 | 2.1 |
Air is the biggest sector by sales and by backlog. It makes major airframe units of the Eurofighter Typhoon for its core European customers (13 completed in 2025), has delivered the last two of 24 Typhoons to Qatar, and signed in 2025 to build 20 Typhoons for Türkiye, which the company says is worth £4.6bn to it, with first delivery in 2030.4 It also builds the rear fuselage of every F-35 for Lockheed Martin at Samlesbury: 153 in 2025, about 150 a year expected to continue, with the price of Lots 20 to 22, which run to 2030, still under negotiation with Lockheed.45 That sentence matters for risk, because the customer is a prime contractor with its own interest. The third strand is GCAP, the Global Combat Air Programme, which the UK calls Tempest. In 2025 BAE launched Edgewing with Leonardo of Italy and JAIEC of Japan as the joint company that designs the new fighter, and in 2026 Edgewing won its first two international contracts, £0.7bn in April and £4.6bn in July.45 The company expects the design authority to last beyond 2070.4 Air also includes BAE’s stake in MBDA, the European missile maker, which won more than £4bn of orders for BAE’s share in 2025, and a large Saudi business that supports Typhoon and Tornado fleets under the Saudi British Defence Co-operation Programme; that five-year cycle ends in December 2026 and the renewal for 2027 to 2031 is being bid.45
Maritime builds the Royal Navy’s nuclear submarines at Barrow-in-Furness. Five of seven Astute boats are delivered; four Dreadnought boats, which will carry the UK nuclear deterrent, are all under construction; and the SSN-AUKUS design work, with mobilisation in Australia, has started.5 In July 2026 the company announced a new £5.9bn Dreadnought contract.5 It is also building eight Type 26 frigates for the Royal Navy, with five under construction, and the Hunter class for Australia, and in 2025 Norway selected the Type 26 for a government-to-government deal the company describes as worth £10bn.45 The sector earned 6.7% on sales in 2025 and 6.1% in the first half of 2026, because, the company says, several first-in-class programmes trade at low margins.45 That is the weakest part of the group, and it is a quarter of sales.
Electronic Systems is the profit engine, with a 15.4% return on sales in 2025. It makes electronic warfare equipment for the F-35 (190 Block 4 suites delivered), the APKWS laser-guided rocket (the 100,000th kit has been delivered), and since February 2024 the space business formerly owned by Ball Corporation.5 Platforms & Services had a strong run: 17% sales growth in 2025 and return on sales up from 10.2% to 11.4%, on US vehicles (500 AMPV delivered, Bradley, the M109A7 howitzer) and European ones (the CV90 for Czechia, 246 vehicles for $2.2bn, and the Bofors ARCHER and TRIDON air defence systems for Sweden).45 Cyber & Intelligence, at £2.4bn and 9.3%, is the smallest and slowest, and from 2027 it will be reported inside a four-sector structure.45
Space, and what Ball Aerospace was meant to do
On 17 August 2023 BAE announced it would buy Ball Aerospace from Ball Corporation for about $5.55bn in cash.12 The deal closed on 16 February 2024 at $5.5bn, about £4.4bn.13 The company set its own tests: more than $2bn of annual revenue, revenue growth of about 10% a year for five years, a price of about 13 times 2024 EBITDA after a $750m present-value tax benefit and cost savings, and a return on invested capital above the cost of capital within five years of completion.12 The part I can check is growth. The business is now called Space & Mission Systems and its sales grew 29% at constant currency in the first half of 2026, with orders of £1.6bn including $373m on the $1.2bn Epoch 2 missile warning satellites for the US Space Force.5 Electronic Systems sales rose 35% in 2024 (the year of the purchase) and 8% in 2025, which now includes a full year.4 The return test runs to February 2029 and I cannot yet judge it. What I can see is the cost carried in the statements: £414m of amortisation and impairment of acquired and other intangibles in 2025, much of it from this deal, which underlying earnings leave out and basic earnings include.4 Space is the part of BAE that is closest to the new US priority, Golden Dome, the missile-defence system, which the company says its technologies line up with.5
Who pays: the budgets
The demand behind the backlog is political, so I read the budget documents. At the Hague summit on 25 June 2025 NATO allies committed to 5% of GDP on defence and security related spending by 2035: at least 3.5% on core defence and up to 1.5% on related areas such as infrastructure and the industrial base, with a review in 2029.6 NATO’s 2026 edition shows European allies and Canada spent more than US$571bn in 2025 in 2021 prices, up nearly 20% in real terms, or 2.3% of GDP.14 The UK government’s Strategic Defence Review of June 2025 set 2.5% of GDP by 2027 and 3% in the next Parliament when fiscal and economic conditions allow.15 In the United States the President’s fiscal 2027 budget proposes US$1.5 trillion for defense, made of US$1.15 trillion of discretionary funding (28% more) and US$350 billion of mandatory funding, with US$65.8bn for shipbuilding, funding for the Golden Dome missile defence, and a priority on twelve critical munitions.16 BAE says it supplies most of those munition types and has already agreed to quadruple output of the infrared seeker for the THAAD interceptor.5 I have not opened a European Union spending document, and the UK Defence Investment Plan was not yet available to me, so the UK and European figures here are the NATO and Strategic Defence Review statements, which are commitments to spend, not appropriations. A promise to spend 3.5% is not a contract. The backlog is.
Order backlog and order intake
£ billions, Group definition, including the share of joint ventures
- Order backlog £84.0bn at 30 June 2026
- Order intake £36.8bn in 2025; £16.4bn in the first half of 2026
Show the numbers
| 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 2020 | 2021 | 2022 | 2023 | 2024 | 2025 | Jun ’26 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Order backlog, £bn (reported) | 42.0 | 41.2 | 48.4 | 45.4 | 45.2 | 44.0 | 58.9 | 69.8 | 77.8 | 83.6 | 84.0 |
| Order intake, £bn (reported) | 22.4 | 20.3 | 28.3 | 18.4 | 20.9 | 21.5 | 37.1 | 37.7 | 33.7 | 36.8 | 16.4 |
That backlog is £84.0bn, up from £83.6bn at the end of 2025, and the company counts in it its share of joint ventures.5 The IFRS order book, which counts only the group’s own unsatisfied contracts, was £62.7bn at 30 June 2026.5 I use £84.0bn for the size of the work in front of the business and £62.7bn when I compare with the accounts. Order intake was £36.8bn in 2025 and £16.4bn in the first half of 2026, a book-to-bill ratio of 1.2 in 2025.45 Backlog has almost doubled in ten years, from £42.0bn in 2016, but sales rose 61% over the same years, so the extra work is mostly long programmes (submarines, frigates, the new fighter) that earn over a longer time.174
Where the sales are, 2025
Per cent of 2025 sales by customer location
- Share of Group sales US 43%, UK 27%, Europe excluding UK 12%, Saudi Arabia 9%
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| US | UK | Europe excluding UK | Saudi Arabia | Australia | Asia and Pacific excluding Australia | Qatar | Other | Canada | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sales 2025, £m (reported) | £13,157m | £8,349m | £3,634m | £2,843m | £1,293m | £499m | £332m | £328m | £227m |
| Share of Group sales (calculated) | 42.9% | 27.2% | 11.9% | 9.3% | 4.2% | 1.6% | 1.1% | 1.1% | 0.7% |
The “who pays” question has a sharper answer than the geography suggests. The filing says credit risk on defence sales to government customers is considered extremely low.11 It does not give a percentage of sales to any one government. By location, the United States is 43% of sales and the United Kingdom 27%, so two governments are 70%.4 I could not open the IFRS 8 customer note in the annual report because the company’s site blocked automated downloads, so I do not state the share of sales to the US government alone. It will be most of the 43%.
The moat
The test of a durable business is what it did when conditions were hard, and for BAE the hardest recent test was 2016 to 2020, when sales were flat, a pension deficit of £6.1bn needed cash, and the company reorganised. It did not lose money in any year. Underlying profit rose from £1,905m in 2016 to £2,205m in 2021, return on sales stayed between 9.8% and 10.5%, the dividend was raised every year from £0.213 to £0.251, and the Group’s share of the net pension deficit went from £6.1bn at the end of 2016 to £2.1bn at the end of 2021 and to a small surplus today.171018194 That is a business whose results move slowly. The weak spot was cash, not profit: free cash flow was £615m in 2018 and £367m in 2020, with a £1bn payment into the UK scheme in 2020, and over 2016 to 2020 it averaged £759m a year (calculated).101819
Sales and underlying profit, ten years
£ billions, Group definitions, including the share of joint ventures
- Sales £30.7bn in 2025
- Underlying profit £3.3bn in 2025; return on sales 10.8%
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| 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 2020 | 2021 | 2022 | 2023 | 2024 | 2025 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sales (reported) | £19,020m | £19,626m | £18,407m | £20,109m | £20,862m | £21,310m | £23,256m | £25,284m | £28,335m | £30,662m |
| Underlying EBITA/EBIT (reported) | £1,905m | £2,034m | £1,928m | £2,117m | £2,037m | £2,205m | £2,479m | £2,682m | £3,015m | £3,322m |
| Return on sales (calculated) | 10.0% | 10.4% | 10.5% | 10.5% | 9.8% | 10.3% | 10.7% | 10.6% | 10.6% | 10.8% |
What protects the business is a position, not a price. Four things make it hard to dislodge. First, incumbency on programmes that run for decades: the Royal Navy’s submarines are built at Barrow, the Typhoon production line and the F-35 fuselage line exist, and GCAP’s design authority is meant to last beyond 2070.4 A government cannot easily move a half-built submarine. Second, security rules: when it bought Ball Aerospace, the company noted that more than 60% of its 5,200 employees held US security clearances and said the purchase gave a substantial increase to its US classified revenues.12 Third, local presence: governments prefer to buy from a company with plants in their own country, and BAE has them in the US, UK, Sweden, Australia and Saudi Arabia.4 Fourth, technical depth in electronic warfare, sensors and munitions, where it reports a 15.4% return in Electronic Systems.4
The test I would apply to any moat is pricing power, and this is where I am careful. A business with a real edge can raise prices or keep margins above its peers. BAE’s return on sales has been between 9.8% and 10.8% for ten years. Lockheed Martin earned 10.3% on revenue in 2025, Northrop Grumman 10.8%, General Dynamics 10.2% and RTX 10.5% (calculated).78920 The customer sets the price on most programmes, either by cost-plus contract or by competition between a few suppliers, and caps the profit. So the edge shows in volume and stability, not in margin: visibility of work. The backlog is 2.7 times 2025 sales and the IFRS order book 2.2 times (calculated).54 That is worth something, and I price it, but it is a different thing from earning an unusual return.
Return on capital agrees. Net assets of £11.9bn, net debt of £3.8bn and net lease liabilities of £1.7bn at the end of 2025 total £17.5bn; underlying EBIT of £3,322m taxed at 22% leaves £2.6bn, a return of 14.8% (calculated).4 That is above my 8.5% cost of capital, but £12.7bn of that capital is goodwill, much of it from past purchases, so the figure says more about what was paid for the businesses than about how well they use new money. The company has also returned most of its cash, not reinvested it: net capital spending of £957m in 2025 compares with about £0.76bn of depreciation and amortisation of its own assets, after taking out £414m of amortisation and impairment of acquired and other intangibles from the £1,173m total.4
Earnings and dividend per share
£ per share
- Underlying EPS £0.752 in 2025
- Dividend £0.363 in 2025; policy is cover of about two times
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| 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 2020 | 2021 | 2022 | 2023 | 2024 | 2025 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Underlying EPS, £ (reported) | 0.403 | 0.435 | 0.429 | 0.458 | 0.443 | 0.478 | 0.555 | 0.632 | 0.685 | 0.752 |
| Dividend per share, £ (reported) | 0.213 | 0.218 | 0.222 | 0.232 | 0.237 | 0.251 | 0.270 | 0.300 | 0.330 | 0.363 |
The steadiest evidence of quality is per-share growth. Underlying EPS rose from £0.403 in 2016 to £0.752 in 2025 (a compound 7.2% a year) and the dividend from £0.213 to £0.363 (6.1% a year), while the weighted share count came down from 3.17bn to about 3.0bn.1721 The dividend has never been cut in those ten years. Its policy is cover of about two times underlying earnings; 2025 earnings of £0.752 against £0.363 is 2.07 times (calculated).54 I take that as a floor under the payout and a sign that management plans to grow it with earnings.
What would break it? A moat in defence is political more than commercial. If a government decides to buy from someone else, or to buy less, or to build at home, volume goes. The F-35 fuselage depends on a Lockheed Martin contract, Typhoon exports depend on government approval, Type 26 for Norway depends on two governments agreeing, and GCAP depends on three. Nothing in the company’s control makes those decisions. I come back to this in Risks.
The competitive advantage
The question here is what BAE can do that a rival cannot, measured against the nearest companies. The comparison that is easy to make from filings is the profit margin on sales, and BAE is in the middle of it.
BAE Systems against the large US defence companies
2025, as each company reports it. Operating margin is operating profit divided by revenue; for BAE I show both the IFRS and the company’s underlying measure.
| Company | Revenue, 2025 | Operating profit | Operating margin |
|---|---|---|---|
| BAE Systems (IFRS) | £28,336m | £2,925m | 10.3% |
| BAE Systems (underlying, sales basis) | £30,662m | £3,322m | 10.8% |
| Lockheed Martin | US$75,048M | US$7,731M | 10.3% |
| Northrop Grumman | US$41,954M | US$4,511M | 10.8% |
| General Dynamics | US$52,550M | US$5,356M | 10.2% |
| RTX | US$88,603M | US$9,300M | 10.5% |
The table says the edge is not in the margin: every large defence prime lands between 10% and 11%. It also says BAE is not a lagging business. The differences are in mix. Electronic Systems at 15.4% is as good as it gets in the group, and it is 25% of sales; Maritime at 6.7% pulls the average down, and it is 22% of sales.4 If Maritime earned the group average, underlying profit would be about £280m a year higher (calculated). If Electronic Systems grows faster than the rest, the group margin will drift up without any change in how any single business is run, which is what I assume in my base case and is a bet on mix. In the first half of 2026 the group margin was 10.8%, up from 10.6%, with Electronic Systems at 15.5%, Air 11.9%, Platforms & Services 11.9%, Cyber & Intelligence 9.0% and Maritime at 6.1%, down from 6.8%.5
What BAE has that its US peers do not is range of customers. Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and General Dynamics have mostly US government customers. BAE’s sales are 43% US, with the rest across the UK, Europe, Saudi Arabia, Australia and Asia.4 In practice that means when European spending rises, as it is doing, it gains from it directly through Typhoon, Hägglunds and Bofors vehicles, Type 26, MBDA and Edgewing, while still having its US business as ballast. Europe excluding the UK grew from £2.8bn in 2024 to £3.6bn in 2025 of sales, up 28%, and in the first half of 2026 to £2.1bn from £1.6bn.45 I find this a real advantage for the next five years. It is not an advantage over the US primes in the US, where BAE is a mid-size competitor in a market it does not control.
Where it is weaker. First, it makes parts for others in some of its best-known work: the F-35 rear fuselage is a subcontract to Lockheed Martin. Second, it is a smaller player in the weapons that the US now wants most. BAE says it is a key supplier to most of the 12 critical munition types, often as the maker of a part such as the THAAD seeker, which gives it a share of the volume but not the economics of the company that owns the finished weapon.5 Third, the heavy shipbuilding is in the UK and Australia, where it is the main builder and therefore carries the risk of first-of-class overruns. Fourth, the new fighter is shared: GCAP is a joint company with Italy and Japan, so BAE does not control the programme or take its whole profit.5
The other point on advantage is capacity. The company is spending about £1.0bn a year on capital expenditure and £407m on its own research and development, and says it will invest more than $300m over five years in Hägglunds and $135m more in Texas and New Hampshire for guided munitions.45 Whether that investment earns more than it costs is the open question for cash. The NATO share of GDP can rise a lot and not help an owner if the extra volume needs capacity that the contract does not pay for. The evidence of the first half of 2026 is encouraging: sales up 9% and profit up 11% with a margin that went up.5 I treat it as a test I have not yet seen through a full cycle.
Management
The people who matter are Charles Woodburn, Chief Executive since 1 July 2017, when he succeeded Ian King, who had led the company since 2008, and Brad Greve, the Chief Finance Officer; Cressida Hogg is Chair, and Tom Arseneault, who runs the US business, BAE Systems, Inc., sits on the board.105 Woodburn has put his name to every results announcement I read from 2017 on. The board is adding Michelle Hinchliffe, a former KPMG leader who sits on the boards of BHP and Macquarie, as a non-executive director from 1 September 2026, with a seat on the Audit and Risk Committee, and the Chair said she was also chosen because the Australian business is growing.22
How they are paid, and what I could not verify
This is the part of the page where I have a gap. How a chief executive is paid is in the remuneration report in the annual report, and the company’s website blocked automated downloads of the 2025 report, so I could not read the bonus measures, the long-term plan targets, the pay totals or the holding requirements.23 I will not guess them. What I can say from other filings is limited and I give it for what it is worth. The company guides to four measures: sales, underlying EBIT, underlying EPS and free cash flow, and a three-year cumulative free cash flow floor.5 If pay follows those, as in most large companies, it rewards underlying EPS, which leaves out £414m a year of amortisation of acquired intangibles, so an acquisition looks better on that measure than on basic EPS. In 2025 underlying EPS grew 12% and basic EPS 6%.4 And the cumulative cash floor rewards the timing of customer advances as much as it rewards earnings, a point I come back to in Financials.
On their own money in the shares, the only dealings I found in the four months before this page are monthly purchases in the company’s Share Incentive Plan: the Chief Executive, the Chief Finance Officer and other senior managers each buy six to eight shares a month, roughly £100 to £150, and receive three matching shares.24 That tells me nothing about conviction, either way. The larger holdings they may have through share awards are in the report I could not read. A cost I can see is what the shares cost the company: the equity-settled share schemes charged £174m in 2025, up from £92m in 2021.419
What they did with the cash
Where ten years of cash went
£ millions, 2016 to 2025, from the cash flow statements. Free cash flow is the company’s measure (2016 to 2019 calculated by me).
| Item | £ millions | Per £1 of free cash flow | Comment |
|---|---|---|---|
| Free cash flow, 2016 to 2025 | 14,863 | £1.00 | Includes a £1bn payment into the UK pension scheme in 2020 |
| Dividends paid | 7,927 | £0.53 | Raised every year; policy is cover of about two times underlying earnings |
| Share repurchases | 2,774 | £0.19 | None before 2021; 2021 £368m, 2022 £788m, 2023 £561m, 2024 £555m, 2025 £502m |
| Acquisitions, net of cash acquired | 6,711 | £0.45 | £4,776m of it in 2024, for Ball Aerospace; £1,706m in 2020 for US electronics businesses |
| Rise in net debt, 2016 to 2025 | 2,302 | £0.15 | £1,542m at end 2016 to £3,844m at end 2025; small disposals and other items fill the gap |
Over ten years BAE generated £14.9bn of free cash flow. It paid 53% of it as dividends, spent 19% on buybacks, and used 45% on acquisitions, and net debt rose by £2.3bn (calculated).174 The decision that matters is Ball Aerospace: £4.8bn in 2024 is 71% of everything spent on purchases and 32% of ten years of free cash flow. The company paid about 13 times EBITDA after tax benefits and savings; the group itself trades on about 16 times 2025 underlying EBITDA (£3,322m of EBIT plus about £0.76bn of depreciation and amortisation of own assets, against an enterprise value of about £66bn) (calculated).124 so on price it was a purchase at a lower multiple than its own. The promised 10% annual revenue growth is being beaten so far; the promised return above the cost of capital cannot be judged until 2029.5
The buyback is the point I would give most scrutiny. The stated policy is to return extra cash when the balance sheet allows and when the return is above the cost of capital, and £1.5bn programmes have been announced twice, in 2022 and 2023.5 But it barely shrinks the share count. In the first half of 2026 the company bought back 13m shares for £251m and issued 20m shares to employees from treasury, so the shares outstanding for earnings per share rose from 2,988m to 2,995m.5 Over 2025 buybacks added £0.003 to a £0.752 underlying EPS.4 In effect the buyback pays for the employee share schemes. I count the scheme cost (£174m) as a cost of doing business in my valuation and the buyback as a payment to owners only to the extent that it exceeds the shares issued.
The cultural record is steadiness, and the evidence is the guidance record: the company has raised its 2025 and 2026 guidance at the half-year each time and ended 2025 above the upgraded range on profit, EPS and cash.45 The caution is the free cash flow guidance for 2025 of more than £1.1bn given in November 2025, against an actual £2,158m two months later: customer advances arrived late in the year.214 A floor is not a forecast, but one that was beaten by about £1bn is not a number I can lean on, and it is why I do not take the 2026 target of more than £2.0bn as a base for the future.
Financials
Five things in BAE’s statements don’t mean what they first seem. Sales are not revenue. The company’s main measure adds its share of joint ventures to IFRS revenue, so 2025 sales were £30.7bn against IFRS revenue of £28.3bn; in Air alone the first half of 2026 shows sales of £4.9bn against revenue of £3.8bn, because MBDA and Eurofighter come in at the company’s share.45 Underlying profit is higher than profit. 2025 underlying EBIT was £3,322m and operating profit £2,925m, and the £397m gap is mostly £414m of amortisation of acquired intangibles, in particular from Ball; underlying EPS was £0.752 against basic £0.688.4 Free cash flow has customer money in it, which I show below. The pension surplus of £1,075m is an accounting number, net of withholding tax on a refund and not cash an owner can take out.54 And the ten-year series has breaks: profit was EBITA until 2019, IFRS 15 and IFRS 16 began in 2018 and 2019, and 2020 cash includes a £1bn payment into the UK pension scheme.1819
Ten years of figures
Group definitions, £ millions unless marked. Calendar years.
| 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 2020 | 2021 | 2022 | 2023 | 2024 | 2025 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sales (reported) | 19,020 | 19,626 | 18,407 | 20,109 | 20,862 | 21,310 | 23,256 | 25,284 | 28,335 | 30,662 |
| Underlying EBITA/EBIT (reported) | 1,905 | 2,034 | 1,928 | 2,117 | 2,037 | 2,205 | 2,479 | 2,682 | 3,015 | 3,322 |
| Return on sales (calculated) | 10.0% | 10.4% | 10.5% | 10.5% | 9.8% | 10.3% | 10.7% | 10.6% | 10.6% | 10.8% |
| Underlying EPS, £ (reported) | 0.403 | 0.435 | 0.429 | 0.458 | 0.443 | 0.478 | 0.555 | 0.632 | 0.685 | 0.752 |
| Dividend per share, £ (reported) | 0.213 | 0.218 | 0.222 | 0.232 | 0.237 | 0.251 | 0.270 | 0.300 | 0.330 | 0.363 |
| Free cash flow (reported) | 617 | 1,344 | 615 | 850 | 367 | 1,864 | 1,950 | 2,593 | 2,505 | 2,158 |
| Net debt (reported) | 1,542 | 752 | 904 | 743 | 2,718 | 2,160 | 2,023 | 1,022 | 4,945 | 3,844 |
| Order backlog, £bn (reported) | 42.0 | 41.2 | 48.4 | 45.4 | 45.2 | 44.0 | 58.9 | 69.8 | 77.8 | 83.6 |
| Net pension position, £bn (reported) | -6.1 | -3.9 | -4.0 | -4.5 | -4.5 | -2.1 | +0.6 | +0.2 | +0.8 | +0.8 |
Read across the ten years, sales rose 61% (5.5% a year) and underlying profit 74%, with all of the pace in the last five years: from 2020 to 2025 sales grew 8.0% a year and underlying profit 10.3% (calculated).194 Return on sales did not change much, from 10.0% to 10.8%, so growth came from volume. Cash is the item with a story. In 2016 to 2019 the company paid deficit contributions into the UK and US pension schemes of £271m (2017) and £231m (2019) beyond the service cost, and put in a further £1bn in 2020; since 2022 the Group’s net position has been a surplus and those payments are gone.101819 That is one reason cash today is higher than it was, and it does not repeat.
Free cash flow, ten years
£ millions, company definition: after capital spending, leases, interest and tax
- Free cash flow £2,158m in 2025; £11,070m over 2021 to 2025
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| 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 2020 | 2021 | 2022 | 2023 | 2024 | 2025 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Free cash flow (reported) | £617m | £1,344m | £615m | £850m | £367m | £1,864m | £1,950m | £2,593m | £2,505m | £2,158m |
| of which 2016 to 2019 calculated (calculated) | £617m | £1,344m | £615m | £850m |
Cash: how much is real
Free cash flow of £2,158m in 2025 and £11,070m over 2021 to 2025 is the number the company guides to and the number most reports use. For an owner the right question is what is left after costs that are real but sit outside it, and what part of it was borrowed from customers. The first is small: the cost of share schemes (£621m over five years) and dividends to minority holders in subsidiaries (£631m) (reported). Owner cash after those was £9,818m, 89% of reported free cash flow (calculated).19114 The second is larger. Working capital, which includes customer advances, added £1,897m over the five years, so owner cash before working capital was £7,921m, an average of £1,584m a year, 72% of reported free cash flow.19114 In 2025 the working-capital lines took cash out (−£345m), so owner cash before working capital that year was £2,243m, the best of the five. I therefore do not argue that cash is overstated every year. It is lumpy, and in 2026 the lump runs in the other direction.
From free cash flow to owner cash
£ millions. Owner cash takes the company’s free cash flow, removes the cost of share schemes and what goes to minority holders, and, in the last line, removes working capital.
| 2021 | 2022 | 2023 | 2024 | 2025 | Total | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Free cash flow (reported) | 1,864 | 1,950 | 2,593 | 2,505 | 2,158 | 11,070 |
| Less cost of equity-settled share schemes (reported) | −92 | −101 | −110 | −144 | −174 | −621 |
| Less dividends to minority holders (reported) | −202 | −166 | −88 | −89 | −86 | −631 |
| Owner cash (calculated) | 1,570 | 1,683 | 2,395 | 2,272 | 1,898 | 9,818 |
| Less working capital inflow (reported) | -49 | -323 | -1,125 | -745 | +345 | −1,897 |
| Owner cash before working capital (calculated) | 1,521 | 1,360 | 1,270 | 1,527 | 2,243 | 7,921 |
| Underlying EBIT (reported) | 2,205 | 2,479 | 2,682 | 3,015 | 3,322 | 13,703 |
| Cash before working capital and before interest, as a share of EBIT (calculated) | 91% | 73% | 61% | 70% | 86% | 78% |
Reported free cash flow against what an owner can take
£ millions
- Reported free cash flow £11,070m over five years
- Owner cash £9,818m
- Owner cash before working capital £7,921m, £1,584m a year
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| 2021 | 2022 | 2023 | 2024 | 2025 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Free cash flow (reported) | £1,864m | £1,950m | £2,593m | £2,505m | £2,158m |
| Working capital inflow (outflow) (reported) | £49m | £323m | £1,125m | £745m | −£345m |
| Share-scheme cost (reported) | £92m | £101m | £110m | £144m | £174m |
| Dividends to minority holders (reported) | £202m | £166m | £88m | £89m | £86m |
| Owner cash (calculated) | £1,570m | £1,683m | £2,395m | £2,272m | £1,898m |
| Owner cash before working capital (calculated) | £1,521m | £1,360m | £1,270m | £1,527m | £2,243m |
Customer advances and the cash flow
£ millions. Contract liabilities are payments received from customers ahead of the work, current plus non-current.
| Year-end | Contract liabilities | Share of that year’s sales |
|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 3,762 | 18% |
| 2021 | 3,393 | 16% |
| 2022 | 4,827 | 21% |
| 2023 | 5,820 | 23% |
| 2024 | 6,224 | 22% |
| 2025 | 6,566 | 21% |
| Jun 2026 | 7,884 | 25% of annualised H1 sales |
Contract liabilities are £7.9bn at 30 June 2026, 25% of annualised sales, up from £3.4bn at the end of 2021 (16% of sales).519 Customers pay in advance for submarines, aircraft and munitions, and the company uses that cash to fund its supply chain. It is real money, but it is the customers’ until the work is done. As long as the backlog grows, the balance grows and free cash flow stays above profit. When programmes mature and deliveries catch up, the balance falls, and cash runs below profit. The first half of 2026 shows it clearly: free cash flow was £1,791m against minus £368m a year before, and the company says that includes net customer advances of £1.6bn, also from MBDA.5 Cash at 30 June was £4.2bn.5 Management’s full-year target is more than £2.0bn, which implies only about £0.2bn or more of free cash flow in the second half, so the advances will mostly flow out to suppliers.5 The cumulative floors tell the same story: more than £6.7bn for 2024 to 2026, more than £5.5bn for 2025 to 2027 and more than £6.0bn for 2026 to 2028. If 2026 comes in at £2.0bn, those floors need only about £1.3bn for 2027 and about £4.0bn for 2027 and 2028 together.54 I take them as floors and not forecasts, but they say the company does not promise to repeat £2.5bn a year.
The first half of 2026
Six months to 30 June, the company’s own measures.
| Measure | H1 2026 | H1 2025 | Change |
|---|---|---|---|
| Sales | £15,772m | £14,621m | +9% at constant currency |
| Underlying EBIT | £1,701m | £1,550m | +11% |
| Return on sales | 10.8% | 10.6% | +0.2 points |
| Underlying EPS | £0.389 | £0.347 | +13% |
| Free cash flow | £1,791m | −£368m | Includes about £1.6bn of net customer advances |
| Order intake | £16.4bn | £13.2bn | +£3.2bn |
| Order backlog | £84.0bn (30 June) | £83.6bn (31 December) | +£0.4bn |
| Net debt excluding leases | £3,173m | £3,844m (31 December) | −£671m |
| Interim dividend | £0.150 | £0.135 | +11% |
Net debt and the pension position
Net debt excluding lease liabilities, £ millions, year-end
- Net debt £3,173m at 30 June 2026, helped by about £1.6bn of net customer advances
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| 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 2020 | 2021 | 2022 | 2023 | 2024 | 2025 | Jun ’26 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Net debt, £m (reported) | £1,542m | £752m | £904m | £743m | £2,718m | £2,160m | £2,023m | £1,022m | £4,945m | £3,844m | £3,173m |
The pension position at 30 June 2026
£ millions, IAS 19 accounting basis, Group share.
| Scheme | Surplus or (deficit) | Note |
|---|---|---|
| UK defined benefit schemes | 1,352 | Surplus £1,441m less £89m of unfunded obligations; net of withholding tax on a refund |
| US and other pension schemes | (103) | Deficit that the company funds |
| US healthcare schemes | 32 | Small surplus |
| Saudi end-of-service benefit | (206) | Unfunded; behaves like debt |
| Total | 1,075 | Up from £844m at end 2025 as discount rates rose |
The balance sheet is strong. Net debt excluding leases was £3,844m at the end of 2025, 0.9 times underlying EBITDA by the company’s measure, and £3,173m at 30 June 2026, with £7.4bn of loans against £4.2bn of cash.54 The dollar bond of $750m at 3.85% was repaid in 2025.5 The cost of money is not a worry. Net finance costs are guided at about £340m for 2026, covered 10 times by underlying EBIT (calculated).5 I do not value the UK pension surplus. It is £1,352m after tax on a refund, and a refund is not within the company’s control, because it depends on the trustees and on the government’s rules on surplus payments. I treat the Saudi end-of-service obligation (£206m) and the US pension deficit (£103m) as debt. I have not seen the funding-basis valuation of the UK scheme, which could differ from the accounting one, and I say so rather than guess.
Valuation
First, how this goes badly wrong
Before any numbers, I ask what would hurt an owner most. I count three ways.
A government changes its mind. Two governments are 70% of sales.4 The US spending increase is a request, and a budget request is not an appropriation: the fiscal 2027 proposal of US$1.5 trillion needs Congress, and in November 2025 the company itself warned that a US government shutdown could delay contract funding and payments.1621 In the UK the target of 3% of GDP comes with the words “when fiscal and economic conditions allow”.15 NATO’s own 5% commitment is to be reviewed in 2029.6 A budget that grows 3% instead of 8% for a few years leaves the backlog intact and starves the new orders that replace it. In my tests below, three points less growth a year for three years takes £1.47 a share off the base.
A first-of-class programme goes wrong. The Maritime sector, about a fifth of sales, earns 6.1% to 6.7% because several first-in-class programmes trade at low margins.45 The first Type 26 frigates have not yet gone to sea trials, Dreadnought is a new design with a first boat still being built, and GCAP is in design with two partners.45 I do not know which contracts are fixed-price and which are cost-plus; the filings do not say, and I treat that as something I can’t see. A £1.5bn overrun is not out of scale for programmes of this size, and the cash would go before it comes back.
I pay a full price for cash that is partly the customers’. At £20.75 the shares are 27.6 times 2025 underlying earnings, about 20 times 2025 underlying EBIT and 18 times 2026 EBIT if the company reaches the middle of its guidance, and the dividend yields 1.7%.14 The free cash flow of the last two years has had customer advances in it, and 2026 has had £1.6bn so far.5 A defence contractor at a high multiple is exposed to two things at once: a growth rate that disappoints, and a multiple that falls even if growth does not.
What an owner can really take out
In 2025 owner cash was £1,898m, or £0.63 a share, 3.0% of the price (calculated).4 Before working capital it was £2,243m, or 3.6%. Over 2021 to 2025 it averaged £1,584m before working capital, 2.5% of the price (calculated).19114 Reported free cash flow for 2025 was £2,158m, and underlying earnings to shareholders £2,253m. In 2024 owner cash before working capital was £1,527m against underlying earnings of £2,065m, 74%; in 2025 it was 100%.4 The ratio moves a lot, which is why I do not pick one year. In my base case owner cash is £2,109m in 2027, £3,362m in 2030 and £4,016m in 2035. At this price an owner takes about 3% a year of cash out, against a 10-year UK government bond that pays 5.25% and Bank Rate of 3.75%.2526 The rest of the return has to come from growth.
What I can’t judge
I can’t say how much of each government’s promised increase will become orders, or when. I can’t say which contracts carry fixed prices, what the first Type 26 and Dreadnought boats will cost to finish, or how much of the £7.9bn of customer advances stays as the backlog grows. I can’t say what Lockheed Martin will pay for F-35 Lots 20 to 22, which are still under negotiation, or whether the UK Typhoon support contract that ends in December 2026 and the Saudi support programme that is being bid for 2027 to 2031 will be renewed on today’s terms.5 I could not read the funding-basis pension valuation, the pay report or the customer note in the annual report, and the UK Defence Investment Plan and any European Union spending document were not available to me. For that reason I show a ladder on return on sales and a cash-conversion line and not one number.
Return on sales is the main input
Base case with the return on sales from 2028 on set to each level; sales and cash conversion as in the base. Value per share in £.
| Return on sales from 2028 | Value per share, £ | Against the price |
|---|---|---|
| 9% | £12.09 | −42% |
| 10% | £13.82 | −33% |
| 11% | £15.54 | −25% |
| 12% | £17.27 | −17% |
| 13% | £18.99 | −8% |
| 14% | £20.71 | −0% |
How the cases are built
I build each case year by year in pounds. Sales grow from £30,662m at a rate I set for each year. Underlying EBIT is sales times a return on sales. Cash before working capital is a share of EBIT: I calibrate it to 2021 to 2025, when cash after tax, capital spending, leases and joint-venture dividends, with net interest (excluding lease interest, which is already a cost of leases) added back and working capital taken out, was 76% of EBIT, and I use 74% in the base case because capital spending of about £1.0bn is above the old run rate.4 From that I subtract the share-scheme cost (£174m in 2025, growing with sales) and minority dividends (£86m, growing 3%), and add working capital: an outflow of £350m in 2026, £600m in 2027, £400m in 2028 and £200m in 2029 as the advances unwind, then zero. The 2026 figure counts only the second half, because I take net debt at 30 June: full-year cash on the company’s definition of about £2,043m, in line with its guide of more than £2.0bn, less the £1,791m already in that balance sheet. Claims ahead of the shares are net debt of £3,173m at 30 June, plus the £450m interim dividend declared (the shares went ex that dividend before the price date, so the cash is owed and the price excludes it), plus up to £188m of shares bought since 30 June, plus the Saudi end-of-service obligation of £206m and the US pension deficit of £103m, less £190m of other investments: £3,930m in all.527 I do not deduct lease liabilities, because lease payments are already in cash. I value no UK pension surplus. The share count is the 2,998.99m voting shares at 30 October, less about 11m held in trust, plus 25m for employee share schemes: 3,013m.285
I discount at 8.5%: the UK 10-year government yield of 5.25% plus 3.25 points for budget risk, programme risk and the things I can’t see.25 The premium is a judgement, not a measurement. I stop at 2035 and grow the last year’s cash at 2.0%, 2.5% or 3.0% in the bear, base and bull.
My three cases
£ millions unless marked. Calendar years. Values per share in pounds; US dollars at US$1.3416 per £1 beside them.
| Bear | Base | Bull | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Sales growth, 2026 (estimate) | 7.0% | 8.5% | 9.5% |
| Sales growth, 2027 to 2030, a year (estimate) | 2.6% | 6.5% | 8.5% |
| Sales growth, 2031 to 2035, a year (estimate) | 2.0% | 3.6% | 4.6% |
| Sales, 2030 (estimate) | 36,387 | 42,789 | 46,520 |
| Return on sales, 2026 (estimate) | 10.9% | 11.1% | 11.2% |
| Return on sales, 2030 on (estimate) | 9.5% | 11.7% | 12.6% |
| Underlying EBIT, 2026 (estimate) | 3,576 | 3,693 | 3,760 |
| Underlying EBIT, 2030 (estimate) | 3,457 | 5,006 | 5,862 |
| Underlying EBIT, 2035 (estimate) | 3,817 | 5,974 | 7,455 |
| Cash before working capital as a share of EBIT (estimate) | 68% | 74% | 78% |
| Working capital outflow, 2026 to 2029 total (estimate) | -2,150 | -1,550 | -850 |
| Free cash flow, company basis, 2027 (estimate) | 1,273 | 2,064 | 2,602 |
| Owner cash, 2030 (estimate) | 2,044 | 3,362 | 4,208 |
| Owner cash, 2035 (estimate) | 2,252 | 4,016 | 5,369 |
| Growth after 2035 (estimate) | 2.0% | 2.5% | 3.0% |
| Value of the business, £ millions (estimate) | 29,098 | 54,218 | 76,178 |
| Less claims ahead of the shares, £ millions | 3,930 | 3,930 | 3,930 |
| Value per share, US$ (estimate) | 11.21 | 22.39 | 32.17 |
| Value per share, £ (estimate) | £8.35 | £16.69 | £23.98 |
Underlying EBIT in my three cases
£ millions: bear to bull, with the base marked
- Bear to bull £3.5bn to £5.9bn in 2030
- Base £5.0bn in 2030
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| 2026 | 2027 | 2028 | 2029 | 2030 | 2031 | 2032 | 2033 | 2034 | 2035 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bear (estimate) | 3,576 | 3,549 | 3,497 | 3,425 | 3,457 | 3,526 | 3,596 | 3,668 | 3,742 | 3,817 |
| Base (estimate) | 3,693 | 4,060 | 4,421 | 4,727 | 5,006 | 5,232 | 5,441 | 5,631 | 5,800 | 5,974 |
| Bull (estimate) | 3,760 | 4,284 | 4,831 | 5,391 | 5,862 | 6,312 | 6,627 | 6,926 | 7,203 | 7,455 |
Three comparisons help. My base 2026 underlying EBIT is £3,693m, 11% above 2025 and inside the guidance of 10% to 12% growth; the company beat its 2025 guidance on profit, EPS and cash, and raised 2026 at the half-year.54 My base then grows EBIT at 5.5% a year to £6.0bn in 2035, against 10.3% a year from 2020 to 2025. Second, my bull reaches £5.9bn in 2030, a 12.0% a year pace for five years, which would be faster than the last five and needs a return on sales of 12.6%, higher than any year in the last ten.4 Third, my bear is not a collapse: EBIT stays between £3.4bn and £3.8bn for ten years, the return on sales falls to 9.5%, and cash conversion drops to 70%.
What the price needs
Each line changes one thing in my base case until the value equals the London close of £20.75.
| If | Then the value is the price at | My base case |
|---|---|---|
| Sales growth from 2027 is higher by the same points every year | 2.8 points a year more, giving 2030 sales of £47.5bn and underlying EBIT of £5.6bn | 2030 sales £42.8bn and EBIT £5.0bn; 2020 to 2025 growth was 8.0% a year |
| Return on sales from 2027 is higher | 2.4 points higher every year, about 14.1% by 2030 | 11.7% by 2030; the best in ten years is 10.8% |
| Cash before working capital is a bigger share of EBIT | 88% of EBIT | 74%; 2021 to 2025 averaged 76%, the best year 91% |
| The discount rate falls | 7.4% | 8.5%, and 7.5% to 9.5% in the table below |
| Growth after 2035 is higher | 4.0% for ever | 2.5% |
Put in plain words, the price needs about 2.8 points a year more sales growth than my base for nine years, or a return on sales of about 14.1% by 2030, which no large defence prime in my table earns, or cash conversion of 88%, or all of these in part. It also corresponds to a discount rate of 7.4% on my base cash flows, which is only 2.2 points above the gilt yield. None of these is silly alone. Together they say the market is paying for a company that grows at the rate of the last five years for another ten, holds a higher margin and has little risk of the budget turning. That is possible, and it is the reason my bull case sits above the price.
My base case at other rates
Value per share in £, every other input as in my base case.
| Discount rate | Growth after 2035: 1.5% | 2.0% | 2.5% | 3.0% | 3.5% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7.5% | £17.80 | £18.96 | £20.36 | £22.06 | £24.18 |
| 8.0% | £16.29 | £17.24 | £18.36 | £19.70 | £21.34 |
| 8.5% | £14.99 | £15.78 | £16.69 | £17.77 | £19.07 |
| 9.0% | £13.87 | £14.53 | £15.28 | £16.17 | £17.21 |
| 9.5% | £12.89 | £13.44 | £14.08 | £14.81 | £15.66 |
What it is worth, against the price
Value per share in pounds, my estimates, against the London close in Q4 2026
- Bear to bull £8.35 to £23.98
- Base £16.69
- Price £20.75
- Margin of safety below £11.68
The margin of safety, and the price against the range
My margin-of-safety price is £11.68, US$15.67. It is 70% of my base value. At that price an owner would have a 30% cushion against being wrong about the budget, the programmes and the advances, and the price would be 40% above my bear. It would be about 16 times 2025 underlying earnings and a 5.4% owner cash yield on the 2025 figure. At £20.75 there is no margin of safety. The price is 24% above my base, 13% below my bull, and 2.5 times my bear. My weighted value, with 25% on the bear, 50% on the base and 25% on the bull, is £16.43.
The price reflects a real debate, and the case for the market being right needs naming. It says that NATO allies have just agreed to spend at least 3.5% of GDP on core defence by 2035, that the US request raises discretionary defense funding by 28% in a year, that BAE sits in every important domain (submarines, fighters, vehicles, electronic warfare, space, munitions), that its backlog is 2.7 years of sales and keeps growing, that book-to-bill was 1.2 in 2025, and that a business with that visibility deserves a low discount rate. If I give that its full weight, my bull case is the answer. At 7.5% and 2.5% growth my base value rises to £20.36, close to the price. The case against says that return on sales has not moved in ten years, that every large prime earns the same, that the cash of 2024 to 2026 has been supported by customer money, that the growth must come on top of a base that is already 61% larger than in 2016, and that the price is already £4.06 above my base. I give the second side more of the weight, and I would not be surprised if the first side were right for a while.
The next best use of the same pound
The nearest comparisons I have worked through on this site are cash-generative companies with long contracts. Enbridge has a base return to October 2036 of 9.9% a year in my work and Berkshire Hathaway 6.6%; there is no other defence prime on the site, and Palantir is a software company with a price far above its value. BAE’s base return is 5.6% a year (estimate). The UK 10-year government bond pays 5.25%, and I ask 8.5% from a risk like this one.25 BAE’s base return beats the bond by 0.4 points and falls short of what I ask by 2.9. It differs from the 7.4% above because that is the rate at which my base cash flows equal the price, while this return assumes the value I put on the business in October 2036. BAE is a good business with a long order book. The price is a separate question. A good business at a price that needs more than my base is a poor purchase for the same reason a poor business at a low price can be a good one. I give neither a grade.
The bull case needs many things at once, so I multiply them out. Sales growth near 10% for two years (about 30% likely, by my guess), a return on sales of 12.6% (25%), no budget disappointment in ten years (50%), cash conversion of 80% (40%) and perpetual growth of 3% (50%). Together that is under 1% if they are independent. They are not, since a strong market helps four of the five, so I call it 4% to 6%, not 25% (estimate). My 25% weight on the bull is generous on that arithmetic.
Where this could be in 5 and 10 years
Value per share in 5 and 10 years
My estimates in each year’s pounds. Value is the present value at that date of the cash the business makes after it, less today’s claims held flat, at 8.5%. Owner cash is the cash left after tax, capital spending, interest, share-scheme cost and minority dividends. The return a year starts from £20.75 and adds the cash received.
| Case | Value per share, October 2031 | Value per share, October 2036 | Owner cash per share, to October 2036 | Return a year, to October 2036 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bear | £9.84 | £11.78 | £4.67 | −2.6% |
| Base | £19.86 | £24.09 | £8.94 | +5.6% |
| Bull | £29.10 | £35.92 | £12.00 | +10.4% |
For the base to be right at five years, sales have to be near £45bn and underlying EBIT about £5.2bn in 2031, and the value is then £19.86 a share, about the same as the price today, because five years of cash have gone out and the rest has grown. At ten years the base reaches £24.09. In the bear it is £11.78; in the bull it is £35.92. The four inputs that drive it are sales growth, return on sales, cash conversion and the 8.5% rate. These are estimates of value, not forecasts of the share price. The market price can sit above or below value for years; FT data show the shares up 11.35% over the past year.2
The case for the price
What most people miss
Three things cut in BAE’s favour and get little attention. First, Europe is already in the numbers: sales to customers in Europe outside the UK rose 28% in 2025, to £3.6bn, and 35% in the first half of 2026.45 Second, the pension swung from a £6.1bn deficit at the end of 2016, with £271m a year of extra payments in 2017, to a £0.8bn accounting surplus, and I found no deficit payments in the 2025 or 2026 statements.17104 Third, the company signed a seven-year framework with the US Department of War to quadruple output of the THAAD interceptor’s infrared seeker, and the fiscal 2027 request makes twelve critical munitions one of its highest priorities.516
The bull case
In plain words: governments in all of BAE’s home markets have decided to spend more at the same time; BAE is already inside their biggest programmes; the backlog is £84.0bn; and the cash is strong. Chief Executive Charles Woodburn said at the half-year that governments are responding to a volatile threat picture with sustained increases in budgets, and that execution, geographic spread, investment and the backlog position the company for long-term growth.5 In May 2026 the company listed where it sees opportunities: space, missile and air defence, drones and counter-drone, electronic warfare, combat aircraft and vehicles, frigates and submarines.29 I found no named analyst or fund manager view I could verify, so this case is management’s. One holder I can document is Capital Group, with 10.97% of the voting rights on 20 October 2026; that is a holding in a regulatory notice, not a statement of view.30
Against reality
If BAE hits its guidance and grows as the NATO plans imply, the model gives a value near my base, £16.69 a share, and the price of £20.75 is 24% above that. It is possible, and it needs more than the plan. The price needs about £5.6bn of underlying EBIT in 2030, against £3.3bn in 2025: 10.8% a year for five years (calculated), compared with 10.3% a year from 2020 to 2025 and my base of 8.5%. That is 11% above my base for 2030 and 5% below my bull, so the price sits between the two. Today’s EBIT is paid for at 20 times; my base value implies about 16 times. The odds for my bull, multiplied out in Valuation, are under 1% if the five conditions are independent and perhaps 4% to 6% with the overlap (estimate).
What a 10x would take. Ten times £20.75 is £207.50, a market value of about £625bn, or US$839bn. At 20 times earnings that needs about £31bn of net income, 14 times the £2.25bn of underlying earnings in 2025 (calculated).4 At the 2025 net margin of 7.3% that is revenue of about £425bn, 14 times 2025 sales and roughly all that European allies and Canada together spent on defence in 2025, US$571bn in 2021 prices (a rough comparison, because the price bases differ).14 In ten years it would take 26% a year, against underlying EPS growth of 7.2% a year over the last nine.174 Companies of this size almost never compound at 26% for a decade, and a defence contractor’s sales are capped by what governments spend. Tenfold from here is close to impossible, and I would not build anything on it.
What they have to hit
Six numbers published on a fixed schedule. The third column gives what my base needs and, where stated, what the price needs.
| Indicator | Today | What the case needs | Where to track it | Next check |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sales growth | +9% at constant currency in the first half of 2026; guided at +8% to +10% for 20265 | About 8% in 2027 and 7% in 2028 in my base; about 2.8 points a year more for the price (estimate) | Results announcement, Group financial review, sales; Group guidance table | Market update expected in November 2026 (last year’s was 12 November); results for 2026 in February 202721 |
| Return on sales | 10.8% in the first half, 10.8% in 2025; Maritime 6.1%5 | 11.1% in 2026 rising to 11.7% by 2030 in my base; about 14.1% by 2030 for the price (estimate) | Segmental review table, return on sales by sector | Market update, November 2026; results, February 2027 |
| Free cash flow and the advances behind it | £1,791m in the first half; contract liabilities £7.9bn5 | More than £2.0bn in 2026 on the company’s guide; about £2.1bn in 2027 in my base, with contract liabilities flat or rising (estimate) | Cash flow section, free cash flow; balance sheet, contract liabilities | Results, February 2027 |
| Order backlog and book-to-bill | £84.0bn; intake £16.4bn in the half; Maritime backlog down from £21.3bn to £19.7bn5 | Book-to-bill above 1.0 through 2027 so that sales are replaced; Maritime intake back above its sales | Orders table; segmental review, order backlog | Market update, November 2026; results, February 2027 |
| Maritime return on sales | 6.1% in the first half of 2026, 6.7% in 202554 | Back above 7% by 2027, so that the group margin can reach the 11.3% in my base for 2027 (estimate) | Segmental review, Maritime, return on sales (reported in each half-year and annual result; the sector remains in the 2027 structure) | Results, February 2027; half-year results, July 2027 |
| Net debt and the buyback | Net debt £3,173m; £0.5bn third tranche to June 2027; 9.5m shares bought to 30 October53127 | Net debt below £4bn with no purchase above £2bn; shares outstanding falling | Net debt table; Transaction in Own Shares announcements; total voting rights | Weekly share buyback notices; results, February 2027 |
Where I come down
What moved me was the order book, a return on sales that has stayed between 9.8% and 10.8% for ten years, and a first half in which profit grew faster than sales. What did not move me was the price: I cannot justify £20.75 without a margin above anything the sector has earned, and the cash of the last two years has customer money in it. What would raise my values is a return on sales above 12% with Maritime back above 7%, and the three open contracts (Typhoon support, Saudi renewal, F-35 Lots 20 to 22) agreed on terms like today’s. Each point of return on sales, held from 2028, is worth about £1.72 a share.
Risks, and what would change my view
The three ways this goes badly wrong are at the start of Valuation. These are the rest, and a test of each. The company’s own list of principal risks has ten headings: government customers, defence spending and terms of trade; contract risk, execution and supply chain; cyber and other security risks; international markets; people; safety; acquisitions including joint ventures; business interruption; legal risk; and climate transition.5
- Government concentration. This is the risk behind every other. The United States is 43% of sales and the United Kingdom 27%, and Saudi Arabia, a single government, is 9%.4 One of the first two cutting, delaying or re-sourcing a programme moves the group. The Saudi support programme cycle ends in December 2026 and the renewal is in bid; the UK Typhoon support contract also ends in December 2026 and a successor is under negotiation.5 The company expects its Saudi in-Kingdom business to remain stable, but I cannot judge it from outside.
- A customer that is also a prime. The F-35 rear fuselage is built for Lockheed Martin, and the value of Lots 20 to 22 is still being negotiated.5
- Joint ventures. MBDA, Eurofighter and Edgewing are not controlled; the Group takes its share of profit and receives dividends (£299m in 2025, £202m in the first half of 2026).45 GCAP is run jointly with Italy and Japan.
- Currency. The company guides at $1.32 per £1 and says a five-cent move changes sales by about £500m, underlying EBIT by about £70m and underlying EPS by about £0.014.5 That is about 2% of EBIT for a 3.8% move; a weaker dollar lowers the sterling profit of the US business.
- Reporting changes. From 1 January 2027 the company reports four sectors, not five, and IFRS 18 will redefine operating profit and move the share of joint-venture results out of it, so the 2027 comparatives will need care.5
- Pension. I could not read the funding-basis valuation. The accounting surplus moves with discount rates and asset returns: the Group’s share was £0.8bn at the end of 2025, and the UK surplus alone rose from £1,125m to £1,352m in the first half of 2026.45
What a bad year looks like in the model
Six things that could go wrong, rerun through the model
Base value per share is £16.69. Each row changes only what it names. These are tests of the model, not forecasts.
| Scenario | What changes | Base becomes | Change |
|---|---|---|---|
| Budget growth slows | Sales growth three points lower in each of 2027, 2028 and 2029, then as in the base | £15.22 | −£1.47 |
| A first-of-class overrun | £1.5bn of extra cash cost, half in 2027 and half in 2028 | £16.24 | −£0.45 |
| Margins stay where they are | Return on sales stays at 10.8% from 2027 instead of rising to 11.7% | £15.20 | −£1.49 |
| Advances unwind harder | £1.5bn more working-capital outflow across 2027, 2028 and 2029 | £16.25 | −£0.44 |
| A block of work is lost | About £2bn of annual sales missing from 2028 on, for example F-35 Lots 20 to 22 or the Saudi renewal at lower value | £15.77 | −£0.92 |
| Cash conversion at 68% | Cash before working capital is 68% of EBIT rather than 74% | £15.55 | −£1.14 |
The surprise is how little a one-off overrun costs, £0.45 on £1.5bn, because the cash goes once and the value sits in the long run. What matters more is anything permanent. Margins staying at today’s 10.8% instead of rising cost £1.49; slower growth for three years costs £1.47; a lower cash conversion costs £1.14. The risk is not a bad year. It is a decade in which the budget promises do not become orders and the margin does not move.
What would change my view
Signals that move my values, in either direction.
| Signal | Today | Raises my value | Lowers my value |
|---|---|---|---|
| Sales growth | +9% in the first half of 2026; guided +8% to +10%5 | Guidance for 2027 above 8% | Growth under 5% for a year |
| Return on sales | 10.8% in the first half5 | Above 11.5% with Maritime above 7% | Under 10.3% |
| Free cash flow and advances | £1,791m in the first half; contract liabilities £7.9bn5 | More than £2.0bn for 2026 with contract liabilities flat | Under £1.3bn in 2027, or advances falling more than £1bn |
| Order intake | £16.4bn in the first half; book-to-bill 1.2 in 202554 | Above sales through 2027 | Below sales for two half-years |
| Contract decisions | Typhoon support, Saudi renewal and F-35 Lots 20 to 22 open5 | All three agreed near today’s terms | Any one agreed at a materially lower value |
| Budgets | NATO 3.5% by 2035; UK 2.5% by 2027; US request of US$1.5T61516 | Appropriations and a UK Defence Investment Plan that fund the stated levels | A US shutdown or a UK plan that defers programmes |
| Net debt and acquisitions | £3,173m; one large purchase in ten years54 | Stays below £4bn with the buyback | A debt-funded purchase above £2bn |
| Share count | 2,998.99m voting shares at 30 October 202628 | Falls by more than 1% a year | Rises as employee issuance exceeds buybacks |
Sources
- 1BAE Systems (LSE: BA.) daily price history, pence (opens in a new tab)
- 2BAE Systems PLC (BA.:LSE) summary (opens in a new tab)
- 3Spot exchange rate, US dollar into sterling, series XUDLUSS (opens in a new tab)
- 4Preliminary Results Announcement 2025 (opens in a new tab)
- 5Half-yearly Financial Report, six months to 30 June 2026 (opens in a new tab)
- 6The Hague Summit Declaration (opens in a new tab)
- 7Lockheed Martin 10-K for 2025, XBRL company facts (opens in a new tab)
- 8Northrop Grumman 10-K for 2025, XBRL company facts (opens in a new tab)
- 9General Dynamics 10-K for 2025, XBRL company facts (opens in a new tab)
- 10Preliminary Announcement 2017 (opens in a new tab)
- 11Final Results 2023 (opens in a new tab)
- 12Proposed acquisition of Ball Aerospace (opens in a new tab)
- 13BAE Systems completes acquisition of Ball Aerospace (opens in a new tab)
- 14Defence Expenditure of NATO Countries, 2026 edition (topic page) (opens in a new tab)
- 15The Strategic Defence Review 2025 (opens in a new tab)
- 16Fiscal Year 2027 President’s Budget: Rebuilding Our Military fact sheet (opens in a new tab)
- 17Final Results 2016 (opens in a new tab)
- 18Final Results 2019 (opens in a new tab)
- 19Final Results 2021 (opens in a new tab)
- 20RTX 10-K for 2025, XBRL company facts (opens in a new tab)
- 21Market update (opens in a new tab)
- 22Directorate Change (opens in a new tab)
- 23Annual Report 2025, landing page (opens in a new tab)
- 24Director/PDMR Shareholding (opens in a new tab)
- 25Nominal par yield, 10 years, series IUDMNPY (UK government bonds) (opens in a new tab)
- 26Bank Rate (opens in a new tab)
- 27Transaction in Own Shares (opens in a new tab)
- 28Total Voting Rights, month-end notification (opens in a new tab)
- 29Trading update ahead of the Annual General Meeting (opens in a new tab)
- 30Holding(s) in Company: The Capital Group Companies, Inc. (opens in a new tab)
- 31Commencement of buy-back (opens in a new tab)
How the figures are labelled
(reported)Reported: taken from a filing or a price feed, as printed.
(calculated)Calculated: arithmetic on reported figures, such as a margin or a growth rate.
(estimate)Estimate: my judgement, such as a case value or a growth assumption.
The price
Close in Q4 2026: £20.75, London Stock Exchange, from a price history page and checked against the Financial Times data page [1][2]. BAE Systems trades in pence; I state every price and value in pounds, so 2,075 pence is £20.75, and a figure the filings give as 75.2p appears here as £0.752. Pence is how the screen shows it, and you can divide by 100 to match. The company reports in pounds sterling under IFRS. US dollar values use US$1.3416 per £1, the latest Bank of England spot rate before the price date, which gives US$27.84 [3]. The close is the completed session on the price date. The shares are the 2,998.99m voting shares at 30 October, less about 11m held in trust, plus 25m for employee share schemes [28][5]. Claims ahead of the shares are net debt excluding leases at 30 June 2026, the interim dividend declared, up to £188m of shares bought since, and two small pension-type obligations, less other investments [5][27]. I cannot open the 2025 annual report PDF, so the pay report, the customer note and the funding-basis pension valuation are not used [23]. The next market update is expected in November 2026 and is not used.
The valuation
A ten-year cash flow built from sales growth, a return on sales, and a share of profit that becomes cash. That share is calibrated to 2021 to 2025: free cash flow less working capital plus net interest paid, as a share of underlying EBIT, was 76% (with lease interest left out, because it is already a cost of leases), and I use 74%, 68% and 78% in the base, bear and bull [19][11][4]. Working capital reverses part of the customer advances of 2026. Owner cash is that cash less the cost of employee share schemes and dividends to minority holders. I discount at 8.5%: the Bank of England ten-year par yield of 5.25% plus 3.25 points for budget risk, programme risk and what I cannot see [25]. Cash arrives mid-year; 2026 counts only the second half, to match net debt at 30 June. After 2035 the last year’s cash grows at 2.0%, 2.5% or 3.0% in the bear, base and bull. The yearly return in the horizon table is the rate that equates the price with owner cash after interest on today’s claims, held flat, plus the value in October 2036. The odds in Section VI are my guesses; the weighted value of £16.43 uses 25%, 50% and 25%.
The margin-of-safety price is £11.68, 70% of the base. No rating: the page states a range and the price, and leaves the decision to the reader.
Research, not investment advice. Figures as of .
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